Oompa said: "you should post your comparison of the CLIMAX with the old stuff each week or so"
That would be fun...wish I had the time/talent. I've got a lot of respect for folks like Blondie, V, and others who put a lot of time and research into analyzing the week's WT studies. Truly they are providing food at the proper time; keeping us spiritually well-fed; a banquet of well-oiled dishes...
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An idea for those with "believing" mates
by Olin Moyles Ghost inin my short time on this board, i have noticed that there are many of us whose spouses do not yet share our balanced perception of the society.
the following suggestion is something i use with mrs. ghost from time to time.
as always, your mileage may vary.
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Anyone remember this former C.O.: Kevin Wright?
by Olin Moyles Ghost induring the early 2000s, kevin wright was the c.o.
for a circuit that included several of my friends.
i remember hearing my friends complain about what a tool this guy was--and these complainers weren't just "lowly" publishers--some of them were elders and pioneers.
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Oops...forgot to include the link. Here it is: http://www.lifespan.org/rih/services/surgery/transfusion/team.htm
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Anyone remember this former C.O.: Kevin Wright?
by Olin Moyles Ghost induring the early 2000s, kevin wright was the c.o.
for a circuit that included several of my friends.
i remember hearing my friends complain about what a tool this guy was--and these complainers weren't just "lowly" publishers--some of them were elders and pioneers.
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During the early 2000s, Kevin Wright was the C.O. for a circuit that included several of my friends. I remember hearing my friends complain about what a tool this guy was--and these complainers weren't just "lowly" publishers--some of them were elders and pioneers. I actually had the privilege of meeting this "gift in men" once.
Anyway, someone forwarded this link to me...looks like Bro. Wright is out of the circuit work, making the big bucks as a "Program Manager" for transfusion-free surgery at a hospital. The link to his bio is here:
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What's Your MAIN Reason For Not Believing In "The Truth"?
by minimus inmy mother had this discussion yesterday.
basically, my main argument was that if the fds gets jehovah's holy spirit and their "food" is "the truth", yet they always are correcting themselves, how can anyone in all fairness believe it's "the truth"??
you can't show scripturally why organ transplants are a form of cannibalism and clearly a disfellowshipping offense and a couple of years later after possible disfellowshippings or death, and then believe jehovah god changed his view suddenly.
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I would say my *main* reason is false prophecy. That's not the issue that caused me to question the Society, but to me it is the simplest, most straightforward evidence that the Society does not have God's backing.
I can almost understand some of the bad conduct on the part of elders and other high-ranking folks in the organization. The JWs are right that God's servants have always had personal issues. But nowhere in the Scriptures is there any instance of a false prophet having God's backing and blessing. Rather, the oft-cited passage from Deuteronomy 18 makes it clear how He feels about such ones. -
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GB Anthony Morris 2007 DC Talk DESPERATE PLEADINGS
by doinmypart ingb anthony morris gave the final talk on friday's 2007 follow the christ dc.
in the talk he gives reasons for the r&f to trust the fds specifically the gb.. the talk is nauseating, but shows how desperate the gb has become.
they're losing control of the r&f and they know it.. jwd member booby originally posted this speech on the "gb solidifies ownership" thread.
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I listened to the talk today, and followed along with the speaker, looking up the scriptures. Overall, I would give it a 6.5 out of 10. If you want to hear what a REAL governing body talk sounds like, listen to the Ray Franz talk from 1976 that anasazi posted earlier. Now that's what a GB talk SHOULD sound like.
This Morris guy is not a bad speaker and is not dumb. Rather, he's very average. The reasons he gives for trusting the FDS are absurd, though. I mean, does the fact that the WT has consistently been published on schedule prove God's backing? Really? Is that the best they've got? Also, the growth statistics: worldwide, the Muslims, Mormons, and Pentecostals (and perhaps others) are way ahead of us on that metric.
I didn't like his discussion of the "perfect and discreet slave." An earlier poster mentioned the straw man fallacy. This is a prime example of that. I think I will share this talk with my JW family and friends as an example of the level of importance that the Society places on following men. Brother Morris's unabashed "follow us, follow us" rhetoric combined with his pitifully flimsy reasons why should make excellent food for thought for thinking JWs.
Back to Ray Franz, I really enjoyed his talk. It was a little long (1 and a half hours), but it was a great talk. He spoke with a lot of compassion and at certain points in the talk mentioned the importance of not getting hung up on minor matters, but allowing one's conscience to operate. The introduction has some nice self-deprecating humor regarding his being the "other" Brother Franz. Toward the end, he discusses some of the new members of the GB, including Jaracz, Chitty (!), and Schroeder. Overall, an interesting talk if you have the time to listen to it. Thanks to anasazi for posting this. -
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I'll add my voice to the chorus. Great video--one of your best.
I also enjoyed your back-and-forth with the teenager in your other thread. Your point that 'JWs don't really believe in anything' is so true. -
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Does this sound familiar even though the jargon is foreign?
by Eliveleth ini happened on this site of ex-scientologists.
even though i found the terminoloy unfamiliar, the principles.
are the same as found in the watchtower organization.
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I know a sister who went to some Scientology meetings (not sure what they call them) back in the 80s...then started studying with the JWs. I think certain personalities are drawn to these high-control groups...and some of us are unfortunate enough to be born to parents with those personalities.
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Name Silly Reasons JWs Get Disfellowshipped
by minimus ini know an argument can be made that any reason is unjustifiable but i'm thinking more of the dumbest reasons.
for example, if 2 "witnesses" saw you buy a lottery ticket, you could be df'd for "greediness"......any others??
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I know a guy who was publicly reproved for stealing a case of grocery cart full of beer for a wild-and-crazy JW party. It was a Friday or Saturday evening, and the grocery store was full--there were long lines at each cash register. So, this brother just loaded the grocery cart with several cases of beer and proceeded to wheel it right out the front of the grocery store. He didn't want to wait in line with all the other suckers. Nobody at the store said a thing! The problem was that he bragged about it to everyone at the party...the story got around to the elders, and my buddy got reproved.
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Anyone know who wrote the Truth book?
by Olin Moyles Ghost inas a kid, i remember hearing that "the truth that leads to everlasting life" was the best-selling book of all time besides the bible.
if that's true, then whoever wrote the "truth" book is the second-best-selling author in the history of the world--second only to god!
ray franz's books mention the authors of several society publications, but i don't believe he says who wrote the truth book.
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It doesn't seem thick enough to be a Fred Franz book...also, it's too clear/easy to understand. I don't think there's a single anti-type in the whole book!
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Anyone know who wrote the Truth book?
by Olin Moyles Ghost inas a kid, i remember hearing that "the truth that leads to everlasting life" was the best-selling book of all time besides the bible.
if that's true, then whoever wrote the "truth" book is the second-best-selling author in the history of the world--second only to god!
ray franz's books mention the authors of several society publications, but i don't believe he says who wrote the truth book.
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As a kid, I remember hearing that "The Truth That Leads to Everlasting Life" was the best-selling book of all time besides the Bible. If that's true, then whoever wrote the "Truth" book is the second-best-selling author in the history of the world--second only to God!
Ray Franz's books mention the authors of several Society publications, but I don't believe he says who wrote the Truth book. Do any of you know?